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	<title>Comments on: LIVE: F*ck Nicki Minaj?? Lil Kim, Gang, and Poca tha Papergirl, Sonar, Baltimore</title>
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		<title>By: Trinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out NEW Papergirl Mixtape at:
http://www.soundcloud.com/pocathepapergirl.

And save her as a friend at:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002689936972

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out NEW Papergirl Mixtape at:<br />
<a href="http://www.soundcloud.com/pocathepapergirl" rel="nofollow">http://www.soundcloud.com/pocathepapergirl</a>.</p>
<p>And save her as a friend at:<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002689936972" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002689936972</a></p>
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		<title>By: *M$.VENIA! THE GRAND BEE!!*</title>
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		<dc:creator>*M$.VENIA! THE GRAND BEE!!*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* M$. LIL&#039;KIM THE QUEEN BEE ! OF RAP ! THE GREATEST FEMALE RAPPER OF ALL TIME ! THE FEMALE BIGGIE ! THE MOST COPIED FEMALE RAPPER ! THE #1 FEMALE RAPPER TREND SETTER ! THE QUEEN BEE IS COMING ! *</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* M$. LIL&#8217;KIM THE QUEEN BEE ! OF RAP ! THE GREATEST FEMALE RAPPER OF ALL TIME ! THE FEMALE BIGGIE ! THE MOST COPIED FEMALE RAPPER ! THE #1 FEMALE RAPPER TREND SETTER ! THE QUEEN BEE IS COMING ! *</p>
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		<title>By: Curra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Build a bridge and get under it cos we&#039;re over it! Hahaha yeeee Wooly Wooly!</description>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have felt for the longest time that Lil Kim needed counseling. She is insecure about her looks and no amount of plastic surgery is going to make her happy. Grittin&#039; on Nikki Minaj is just another level of her insecurity. 

I appreciate the comment &quot;Until hip-hop respects the past, artists like Kim will be struggling for relevancy in any way they can.&quot;, so absolutely true. 

Like Lil Wayne stringing a long bits of 4-5 different old skool folks to make one verse and not give the credit to those who came before him. (don&#039;t even ask me what song it was.. i&#039;ont rememba!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have felt for the longest time that Lil Kim needed counseling. She is insecure about her looks and no amount of plastic surgery is going to make her happy. Grittin&#8217; on Nikki Minaj is just another level of her insecurity. </p>
<p>I appreciate the comment &#8220;Until hip-hop respects the past, artists like Kim will be struggling for relevancy in any way they can.&#8221;, so absolutely true. </p>
<p>Like Lil Wayne stringing a long bits of 4-5 different old skool folks to make one verse and not give the credit to those who came before him. (don&#8217;t even ask me what song it was.. i&#8217;ont rememba!)</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to think about whether a female artist&#039;s &quot;fading&quot; beauty makes her less relevant. But I don&#039;t think that&#039;s the reason. It&#039;s less about &quot;fading&quot; beauty and more about the 15 minutes. 

Yeah, Wu Tang is playing Rock the Bells. But they&#039;re performing the classic 36 Chambers, not new stuff. The same with KRS-ONE, Rakim, Slick Rick... They&#039;re not taking shots at younger artists. They know who their audience is and they play to them. Kim should too.

But is &quot;fading&quot; beauty a commodity? 

Only if artists want it to be. Sex Sells. If their content&#039;s about sex, then their popularity is bound to fade. Look at actresses and actors. I&#039;m sure Megan Fox won&#039;t be on top of the the box office numbers in 10 years. But Meryl Streep will. It&#039;s about how you sell yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to think about whether a female artist&#8217;s &#8220;fading&#8221; beauty makes her less relevant. But I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the reason. It&#8217;s less about &#8220;fading&#8221; beauty and more about the 15 minutes. </p>
<p>Yeah, Wu Tang is playing Rock the Bells. But they&#8217;re performing the classic 36 Chambers, not new stuff. The same with KRS-ONE, Rakim, Slick Rick&#8230; They&#8217;re not taking shots at younger artists. They know who their audience is and they play to them. Kim should too.</p>
<p>But is &#8220;fading&#8221; beauty a commodity? </p>
<p>Only if artists want it to be. Sex Sells. If their content&#8217;s about sex, then their popularity is bound to fade. Look at actresses and actors. I&#8217;m sure Megan Fox won&#8217;t be on top of the the box office numbers in 10 years. But Meryl Streep will. It&#8217;s about how you sell yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: JBar</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate how the writer makes it seem as if Nicki is &quot;selling out arenas&quot; solely based on her name alone. She&#039;s on Summer Jam bills with 15 othe artists who are &quot;hot right now&quot; nd barely performs a 20 min set. WHY?! Because the BITCH has no album and still hasn&#039;t showcased her authentic persona. She came in the game a Lil&#039; Kim CLONE (peep her remake of &quot;The Jump Off&quot; on youtube) and will always be considered, by many, an unoriginal, replica ass Barbie. KIM IS THE QUEEN and I have seen her new promo tour in NYC....it was fire!!! Nicki&#039;s energy on stage will never be where Kim&#039;s is even on the QUEEN BEE&#039;s worst day. LONG LIVE LITTLE KIM!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate how the writer makes it seem as if Nicki is &#8220;selling out arenas&#8221; solely based on her name alone. She&#8217;s on Summer Jam bills with 15 othe artists who are &#8220;hot right now&#8221; nd barely performs a 20 min set. WHY?! Because the BITCH has no album and still hasn&#8217;t showcased her authentic persona. She came in the game a Lil&#8217; Kim CLONE (peep her remake of &#8220;The Jump Off&#8221; on youtube) and will always be considered, by many, an unoriginal, replica ass Barbie. KIM IS THE QUEEN and I have seen her new promo tour in NYC&#8230;.it was fire!!! Nicki&#8217;s energy on stage will never be where Kim&#8217;s is even on the QUEEN BEE&#8217;s worst day. LONG LIVE LITTLE KIM!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cam Jus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cam Jus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. my post is gonna go in different directions too then...

a.) I think everybody ends up having new responsibilities and agendas eventually. Even men get married, have kids, find new interests, etc. 

b.)I&#039;m still looking for a clear example or way to show that people say about a female mc &#039;oh she fell off&#039; when she really didn&#039;t. and then be able to show that it&#039;s because folks are biased based on the woman&#039;s looks.

There&#039;s missy elliot. She was talking about 1 minute man and touching herself, etc. and i don&#039;t think looks had much to do with her being popular and then dropping off. (just trying to find an example to prove your original hypothesis).

c.) I agree a little with your thoughts on music and youth. &#039;Lil Freak&#039; is a banger, but now that i think about it, if I had kids i&#039;d cover their ears if it came on in the car lol. But there IS a time and place for everything with music and art in general. At the end of the day, people gotta express themselves. But I know you can&#039;t say FIRE in a movie theater.

d.) why can&#039;t women talk about crushing other rappers without being gender specific? They&#039;re always talking about other rap bitches. It makes it look like they&#039;re only competing with other female rappers. does anybody else notice that? listen to Nicki or Kim or Rah Digga. I give props to Lauryn and Jean Grae. they don&#039;t seem to straight up aim just for other females. 

e.) MIA is the best female emcee out right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. my post is gonna go in different directions too then&#8230;</p>
<p>a.) I think everybody ends up having new responsibilities and agendas eventually. Even men get married, have kids, find new interests, etc. </p>
<p>b.)I&#8217;m still looking for a clear example or way to show that people say about a female mc &#8216;oh she fell off&#8217; when she really didn&#8217;t. and then be able to show that it&#8217;s because folks are biased based on the woman&#8217;s looks.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s missy elliot. She was talking about 1 minute man and touching herself, etc. and i don&#8217;t think looks had much to do with her being popular and then dropping off. (just trying to find an example to prove your original hypothesis).</p>
<p>c.) I agree a little with your thoughts on music and youth. &#8216;Lil Freak&#8217; is a banger, but now that i think about it, if I had kids i&#8217;d cover their ears if it came on in the car lol. But there IS a time and place for everything with music and art in general. At the end of the day, people gotta express themselves. But I know you can&#8217;t say FIRE in a movie theater.</p>
<p>d.) why can&#8217;t women talk about crushing other rappers without being gender specific? They&#8217;re always talking about other rap bitches. It makes it look like they&#8217;re only competing with other female rappers. does anybody else notice that? listen to Nicki or Kim or Rah Digga. I give props to Lauryn and Jean Grae. they don&#8217;t seem to straight up aim just for other females. </p>
<p>e.) MIA is the best female emcee out right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Najeema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Najeema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s almost like anything else, Cam. Women begin to have different responsibilities (marriage and/or children) that cause them to re-evaluate where the music business, recording, and touring plays in their lives. Lauryn is the perfect example of this (along with the going crazy part, of course). Roxanne Shanté decided to pursue a PhD and higher education. Salt found the Lord and Pepa found (then lost) a man. JJFad, turned out to be just that. Kim &amp; Remy went to jail. Rah Digga found out the dudes didn&#039;t have her back like she thought. 
Alright, none of these chicks were knock-outs. 
I guess that&#039;s not fair. One shouldn&#039;t expect a Halle Berry looking brawd to pick up a mic and start rhyming. So, why are we mad when Nicki does it? (Let me stop back. Nicki Minaj has neither the looks or class that Halle Berry has.) I was only making a link between the uber-feminine. But are we mad a &#039;pretty&#039; female rapper? No, I&#039;m mad a girl that used to parade herself as a boy and still talks about elicit sex acts with other females. Now, I love the gheis. But I&#039;m not really a fan of a woman talking about what she does to another woman in her music. I&#039;m just shocked by it. In 1994, S&amp;P, personal sheros of mine, sang Whatta Man. In 2010, Nicki is conspiring to pick up girls for 
Usher. What&#039;s wrong with that? 
Everything. People will argue that there is a place for everything in music. Well, I&#039;m gonna say NO. My bigger concern is the affect music has our on the youth. What they see and hear today will influence who they will become thru many of the seemingly small decisions they make today.
That was a long way to say that it does come back to looks. No one is thinking WuTang is too old to be producing music, based on their looks. Yes, the guys still have it, and from Stone&#039;s post, it sounds like Kim doesn&#039;t, which is sad. So sad. Kim was legendary. So was Foxy. I still stand for my girl Dirty Harriet, but going forward, Nicki Minaj won&#039;t do for me. 
Let&#039;s continue, if you feel like it. I know I got a bit off topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s almost like anything else, Cam. Women begin to have different responsibilities (marriage and/or children) that cause them to re-evaluate where the music business, recording, and touring plays in their lives. Lauryn is the perfect example of this (along with the going crazy part, of course). Roxanne Shanté decided to pursue a PhD and higher education. Salt found the Lord and Pepa found (then lost) a man. JJFad, turned out to be just that. Kim &amp; Remy went to jail. Rah Digga found out the dudes didn&#8217;t have her back like she thought.<br />
Alright, none of these chicks were knock-outs.<br />
I guess that&#8217;s not fair. One shouldn&#8217;t expect a Halle Berry looking brawd to pick up a mic and start rhyming. So, why are we mad when Nicki does it? (Let me stop back. Nicki Minaj has neither the looks or class that Halle Berry has.) I was only making a link between the uber-feminine. But are we mad a &#8216;pretty&#8217; female rapper? No, I&#8217;m mad a girl that used to parade herself as a boy and still talks about elicit sex acts with other females. Now, I love the gheis. But I&#8217;m not really a fan of a woman talking about what she does to another woman in her music. I&#8217;m just shocked by it. In 1994, S&amp;P, personal sheros of mine, sang Whatta Man. In 2010, Nicki is conspiring to pick up girls for<br />
Usher. What&#8217;s wrong with that?<br />
Everything. People will argue that there is a place for everything in music. Well, I&#8217;m gonna say NO. My bigger concern is the affect music has our on the youth. What they see and hear today will influence who they will become thru many of the seemingly small decisions they make today.<br />
That was a long way to say that it does come back to looks. No one is thinking WuTang is too old to be producing music, based on their looks. Yes, the guys still have it, and from Stone&#8217;s post, it sounds like Kim doesn&#8217;t, which is sad. So sad. Kim was legendary. So was Foxy. I still stand for my girl Dirty Harriet, but going forward, Nicki Minaj won&#8217;t do for me.<br />
Let&#8217;s continue, if you feel like it. I know I got a bit off topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam JUS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cam JUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s a good question.  I don&#039;t quite know of an example where i can show that everything else stayed constant except looks. Lauryn, Kim, and others it seems had other issues that took them out the game, at least temporarily. And it&#039;s always difficult to make a come back. Is there anybody that kept releasing music without anything else happening to them? 

And then there were plenty of women who weren&#039;t really what I would call a 10. And I don&#039;t know if their looks had anything to do with me liking their music. A lot of women rappers are attractive, but I don&#039;t know if they were that good looking for it to make a difference that I stop checking for their music when they hit 40.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s a good question.  I don&#8217;t quite know of an example where i can show that everything else stayed constant except looks. Lauryn, Kim, and others it seems had other issues that took them out the game, at least temporarily. And it&#8217;s always difficult to make a come back. Is there anybody that kept releasing music without anything else happening to them? </p>
<p>And then there were plenty of women who weren&#8217;t really what I would call a 10. And I don&#8217;t know if their looks had anything to do with me liking their music. A lot of women rappers are attractive, but I don&#8217;t know if they were that good looking for it to make a difference that I stop checking for their music when they hit 40.</p>
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		<title>By: mfmusic (Move Forward Music)</title>
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		<dc:creator>mfmusic (Move Forward Music)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Najeema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Najeema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch for Kim. I&#039;m still not impressed with Keys. This sounds like a very odd show, but thanks for the coverage. 
I wonder if the LONGEVITY game is different for female artists than male artists. 
The only reason I ask is because I watched a vid on the Rock the Bells lineup and RZA discussing how groups like WuTang should look to Metallica and Willie Nelson, who have fans across generations AND ARE STILL PERFORMING.
Does a woman&#039;s &quot;fading&quot; beauty have anything to do with her current and long-lasting popularity in a the realm of hip-hop. Is a female rapper any different from the vixen that uses her body as her commodity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch for Kim. I&#8217;m still not impressed with Keys. This sounds like a very odd show, but thanks for the coverage.<br />
I wonder if the LONGEVITY game is different for female artists than male artists.<br />
The only reason I ask is because I watched a vid on the Rock the Bells lineup and RZA discussing how groups like WuTang should look to Metallica and Willie Nelson, who have fans across generations AND ARE STILL PERFORMING.<br />
Does a woman&#8217;s &#8220;fading&#8221; beauty have anything to do with her current and long-lasting popularity in a the realm of hip-hop. Is a female rapper any different from the vixen that uses her body as her commodity?</p>
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