Music

9th Wonder is Out of Little Brother?

by Winston "Stone" Ford

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Again, I might need a late pass on this. I’m workin’ my ass off here.

So the rumors are somewhat true. Little Brother isn’t “breaking up,” per se, but their most influential member might be out of the group. From ProHipHop:

[Phonte] Coleman says the beats they’ve received from longtime Little Brother member and Justus League co-founder 9th Wonder haven’t worked on that level. So far, he has landed only one beat on the album’s first eight tracks.

“I don’t know if he has them or not, but it just didn’t grab us. We never had that feeling from the beats he gave us, and, for this album, we’re not going to settle, whether you’re 9th Wonder or Just Blaze. We have to be able to fit it into what we’re doing,” says Coleman.

9th Wonder offers a differing although still murky statement to the News & Observer saying that “I’ve always said the same thing, I’m 9th Wonder of Little Brother and Phonte is the leader of Little brother. This is the direction the MC’s have decided to take. I’ve only got one beat on the album for now and if I get more, I do and if I don’t, I don’t.”

9th Wonder is a good producer, but he’s not a great producer. 9th Wonder was holding Little Brother back because all of his beats pretty much sound the same. (I have said this on numerous occasions by the way.) LB’s next album is pretty much make or break for them, so they need to throw in as many resources as they can to make sure that they at least come out on top (relatively speaking). Much props to Phonte and Pooh for making the decision. 9th Wonder has his own thing going on, so I’m sure he’ll eat.


  • illtek

    Well I heard it first here. That sucks, I hate to see them break up, but i understand the prolems with 9th. He has a nice sound but i must say his production on Minstrel Show wasn’t very diverse. Hopefully he can shape up and hopefully it won’t end nasty. I wanna see LB shine; and if 9th is holding them back, soo be it.

  • DCFIST

    Little Brother is and has always been overrated. After two albums and a bunch of side projects, 9th Wonder ran through his catalog of stiff fruit loops. Now the self aggrandizing MCs he came up with have decided to move on…really. WHO CARES? except for the little brothers little fans, nobody in hip hop gives a f about these cats. They’re the east coast Jurrasic 5…irrelevant except but for a small niche of hip hop fans who like john mayer

  • Illtek

    I seriously disagree that everyone in Hip Hop agrees with you. Their last album stirred up some much needed conversation. I’m assuming that a relevant Hip Hop act sells alot of records in your opinion. I’m sure you listen to some cats that are under the radar. Nas was once irrelevent, so was Busta Rhymes, you can’t hate on a group just because you think they are irrelevant. But your anger in your comment makes me think there is more that you wanna say. Maybe Lloyd Banks isn’t getting the respect you think he deserves, or maybe your mixtape didnt go over too well, either way please, leave the hating to Miss Jones.

  • dcfist

    nah illtek, i just know dope hip hop when I hear it. And I also know what an overhyped, mediocre quasi-underground hip hop group that never really made anything CLASSIC sounds like.

    Maybe you spend too much time on the Okayplayer boards…

  • Illtek

    No I’m not a board junkie. I agree though, their first album wasn’t quite a classic but I believe it was very good. I don’t feel a group has to make a classic album to be considered dope, but you are entitled to your opinion.

  • Ghost

    h Little Brother is for conscious hip hop fans, so I wouldn’t expect you to understand. Commercialized hip hop is for dudes in their 30’s who still think they’re hard and for juveniles. 9th wonder’s beats and Pooh and Te’s rhymes brought some much needed soul to hip hop. Now that J Dilla’s gone, 9th wonder and Madlib are pretty much the only decent producers left. Yeah, Little Brother might be for a niche audience, but maybe thats because the black man isn’t educated enough y’all. People look at half of us as a joke! Listen to Minstrel Show and actually think about the messages and connotations that these brothers are tryin’ to get across. Get out, be cultured, be educated, and don’t knock something you don’t like just becuase it isn’t your style. Its still good music, and LB is NOT the same without 9th…in fact, 9th pretty much makes that shit. Peace, I’m out y’all.

  • dcfist

    > Little Brother is for conscious hip hop fans

    Actually its for conscious hip hop fans little brothers…

    you youngns and your internets are fucking up the game.

    >Now that J Dilla’s gone, 9th wonder and Madlib are pretty much the only decent producers left

    Are you out of your mind? The DC area ALONE has a gang of producers who are at that level. Oddisee, Kev Brown, SlimKat, Blackberry Jones just to name 4.

    Stop sweating cats just cause your read about them in Elemental.

  • ILLEASTMC

    SLIMKAT? BLACKBERRY? AHAHAHAH. Comparing slimkat and blackberry to 9TH WONDER is like comparing bimbo coles and jamal crawford to MICHEAL JORDAN LOL. 9TH IS THE ILLEST PRODUCER IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW AND JUST DOESNT HAVE TIME FOR LITTLE BROTHER ANYMORE. AND YALL CATS WHO SAID 9THS BEATS IS BORING ARE EITHER 12 YEARS OLD, LAFFY TAFFY BEAT FANS OR YOUR JUST HATERS CAUSE U AINT AS NICE AS 9TH YOURSELF. THE LISTENING WAS A ALL TIME HIPHOP CLASSIC, THE MINSTREL SHOW WAS A ALL TIME HIPHOP CLASSIC AND LITTLE BROTHER WILL NEVER MAKE ANY ALBUM THAT COMES CLOSE TO THOSE 2 WITHOUT 9TH, EVEN THOUGH I WILL STILL SUPPORT L.B. AND BUY GETBACK. WHEN J.DILLA LEFT SLUM VILLAGE, ALL THE HATERS LIKE STONE, ILLTECK AND DFFIST SAID THE SAME THING, DILLA BEATS WERE BORING, IT WAS TIME FOR A CHANGE. WELL WHAT HAPPENED? DILLA WENT ON TO BECOME THE G.O.A.T. OF PRODUCING. STOP HATING CAUSE 9THS BANK ACCOUNT IS FATTER THAN ALL U HERBS HATING ON THIS SITE…9TH = THE BEST PERIOD.

  • Trippin

    Yo,

    When do we stop being crabs? If you put crabs in a bucket, for the most part, that will not try to escape. Any one crab that does try, will be attacked and pull down by the other crabs.

    I never heard one word about 9th beats be too repetitive, boring, or whatever until he went from being NC’s best kept secret to being a sought after national recording artist producer.

    Also, why catz on this board acting like they still tight with everybody they was tight with years ago. Things happen, lives change, people grow in different direction, and all kinds of other stuff. That don’t mean you think any less of them, you’ll still have a drink with them when you see them or whatever. Stop reading boards and magazines, watching TV, and listening to radio making it seem like and two catz that have differing opinions they got “BEEF”.

    Hell, here’s a few things that would help you out more than LB or 9th in ya life:

    • Who Gabriel Prosser was,
    • The financial ramifications of “Riding Big” versus the financial benefits of owning a home and riding small.
    • The definition of equity, market value,
    • appreciation and depreciation.
    • Roth IRA, 401K, Term Life Insurance, and Flexible spending account
    • Application Development, Financial Analyst, Manager (of any kind) –
      Job titles that pay regular people the kind of money the dumb ass rappers that catz love